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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I would agree that it may be time for separate plaques for High fixed and mobile. Prior to 10 years ago, the high score was put up by a fixed station. Then K5OT showed us how a mobile could do it, and it seems since then more often than not, the high score has been posted by a mobile. One of the reasons is higher participation by out of state stations and county hunters who focus on the mobiles. I would still award the overall SO high score, and then a plaque for SO high score in the opposite category. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>73<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Jim<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>K8IR<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;text-justify:distribute-all-lines'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> WIQP-mail [mailto:wiqp-mail-bounces@warac.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Scott Neader KA9FOX<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 25, 2013 12:29 PM<br><b>To:</b> WIQP-mail@warac.org<br><b>Subject:</b> [WIQPmail] Fixed and Mobile should have separate awards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hello all!<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I have to say that I have never seen a state QSO party that pit Mobile stations and Fixed stations (with completely different rules) against each other for a single award (Single Op). I know I am not the only fixed station that has shy'd away from operating WiQP due to this issue. Fixed stations should not be competing against Mobile stations, when the QSO rules and point bonuses are different.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I hope that this can be rectified. If the problem is the cost of a second plaque, I have already talked with a number of ham businesses and clubs in Wisconsin that would entertain sponsoring a new plaque, so that both Top Fixed and Top Mobile can have separate plaques.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>What would it take to make this change? How can I help?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>If you feel strongly for or against this type of change, I am guessing now is the time to chime in.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>- Scott KA9FOX<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 12:14 PM, NE9U - Jasper <<a href="mailto:skjasper@att.net" target="_blank">skjasper@att.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>my 2 cents.....<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>not sure if awards are different this year or not. in past highest overall single op score (fixed or mobile) got the plaque. i won it once in 2009 mobile.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>in my opinion a fixed low power station has a hard time competing against a multi county mobile station and that may be keep some fixed guys from entering the contest.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>perhaps a plaque for highest single op mobile and highest single op fixed?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>starts getting expensive , but maybe multi ops (fixed and mobile) should get something too? maybe get plaque sponsors as Minnesota does?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>one other change i'd make is defining a mobile as "capable of operation while mobile" <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>fwiw<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>scott ne9u<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>Sent from my Cray-1<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Mar 25, 2013, at 11:50 AM, Jim GM <<a href="mailto:jim.gmforum@gmail.com" target="_blank">jim.gmforum@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Mobile has gotten and award for only Mobile operation.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>I have been mulling this over for many years. Giving Mobile stations and additional incentive.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>That is If the highest calculated say Mobile Single Op score is higher than a Fixed Station highest score The Mobile station wins both awards.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The argument is that Fixed station is not Mobile. If a fixed station operates from another fixed location other than the fixed stations home location how should this be classified? Portable or Mobile? Neither one really is no longer recognized by the ARRL except Maritime and DX operations ever since the re-designations and definition by the FCC of the use of "/".<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Referance: <b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> FCC Part <span style='color:#D51210'>97</span>.119 Station identification and <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <span style='color:#D51210'>97</span>.11 Stations aboard ships or aircraft.</span></b><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>So it is difficult to come up with terms to use other than Fixed or Mobile.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Not sure if I cleared this up.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Jim K9TF<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>WIQP-mail mailing list<br><a href="mailto:WIQP-mail@warac.org" target="_blank">WIQP-mail@warac.org</a><br><a href="http://mail.warac.org/mailman/listinfo/wiqp-mail_warac.org" target="_blank">http://mail.warac.org/mailman/listinfo/wiqp-mail_warac.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>WIQP-mail mailing list<br><a href="mailto:WIQP-mail@warac.org">WIQP-mail@warac.org</a><br><a href="http://mail.warac.org/mailman/listinfo/wiqp-mail_warac.org" target="_blank">http://mail.warac.org/mailman/listinfo/wiqp-mail_warac.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>