Hi Tom. Indeed, time is on our side now, with the recent contest behind us, and plenty of time to consider changes before any notices about the 2014 running need to be published, etc.<div><br></div><div>I understand that the cost of plaques in general are a lot more expensive than most people realize. Are you willing to share what the current plaque is costing WARAC? Do you have a picture you could post somewhere as to what it looks like? I have a few plaques from the "old days", but it may be different now.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Funny you mentioned "edible awards"... a few old timers might remember that, back in the early-mid 90s, to drum up support for WiQP, I offered to send the top scoring out of state entry a "cheese award", one of those cheddar cheese things made to be in the shape of Wisconsin, and promoted this through the CQ Contest mailing list. It was a lot of fun and definitely did a few new faces to the contest.</div>
<div><br></div><div>California's QSO Party is known for its "wine" awards (top 20 CA and top 20 Non-CA entries), as is the MnQP for their "Wild Rice" awards (top 20 non-MN entries). I am sure other states do something similar. I think it would be a great idea for WiQP to consider something similar.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Sponsors are key. Ham businesses, clubs, and individuals are all likely to want to help.</div><div><br></div><div>Let the discussion begin. :-)</div><div><br></div><div>- Scott KA9FOX</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 7:18 PM, Tom Macon <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tmacon@wi.rr.com" target="_blank">tmacon@wi.rr.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div><font face="Arial">Hello -</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial">The WIQP committee is aware of the need to look at
the plaque offerings but, with Lynn's resignation and the need for others to
pick up the reins, we decided not to complicate matters by making changes.
But, after the 2013 log jam clears, we want to look at a number of aspects of
WIQP, and plaques is one of them. </font><font face="Arial">Also, we
don't want to approach the plaque issue willy-nilly, but rather to think it
through and make one set of changes. So, Scott, thank you for raising
the question here so that we can get more input.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial">Clearly, the SO Fixed vs Mobile is the most
mentioned area, but there are probably others. How about the other
categories? Or for VHF activity? Tech? Rookie? How about edible
awards?</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial">Back in January, there was an interesting
discussion of plaques on the QSO Party Group - an encapsulated version is at:
</font><font face="Arial"><a href="http://www.warac.org/wqp/2013/plaqueinfo.doc" target="_blank"><font color="#810081">http://www.warac.org/wqp/2013/plaqueinfo.doc</font></a>.
Check it out.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial"> And, yes, sponsorship needs to be part of the
program.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial"> - Tom, K9BTQ</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"> WIQP team</font></div></font></div>
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<div style="FONT:10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;BACKGROUND:#e4e4e4"><b>From:</b>
<a title="cqdx@mediacombb.net" href="mailto:cqdx@mediacombb.net" target="_blank">wh</a> </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="WIQP-mail@warac.org" href="mailto:WIQP-mail@warac.org" target="_blank">WIQP-mail@warac.org</a> </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 25, 2013 2:19
PM</div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WIQPmail] Fixed and Mobile
should have separate awards</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif';COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt">I
agree with Scott. Separate mobiles from fixed.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif';COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif';COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt">Bill,
N9CDX<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif';COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Tahoma','sans-serif';FONT-SIZE:10pt">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Tahoma','sans-serif';FONT-SIZE:10pt"> WIQP-mail
[mailto:<a href="mailto:wiqp-mail-bounces@warac.org" target="_blank">wiqp-mail-bounces@warac.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Scott Neader
KA9FOX<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 25, 2013 12:29 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:WIQP-mail@warac.org" target="_blank">WIQP-mail@warac.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b>
[WIQPmail] Fixed and Mobile should have separate awards<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hello all!<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have to say that I have never seen a state QSO party that
pit Mobile stations and Fixed stations (with completely different rules)
against each other for a single award (Single Op). I know I am not the
only fixed station that has shy'd away from operating WiQP due to this issue.
Fixed stations should not be competing against Mobile stations, when the
QSO rules and point bonuses are different.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I hope that this can be rectified. If the problem is
the cost of a second plaque, I have already talked with a number of ham
businesses and clubs in Wisconsin that would entertain sponsoring a new
plaque, so that both Top Fixed and Top Mobile can have separate
plaques.<u></u><u></u></p></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">What would it take to make this change? How can I
help?<u></u><u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If you feel strongly for or against this type of change, I
am guessing now is the time to chime in.<u></u><u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div>
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<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM:12pt" class="MsoNormal">- Scott KA9FOX<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 12:14 PM, NE9U - Jasper <<a href="mailto:skjasper@att.net" target="_blank">skjasper@att.net</a>>
wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">my 2 cents.....<u></u><u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">not sure if awards are different this year or not. in
past highest overall single op score (fixed or mobile) got the plaque. i
won it once in 2009 mobile.<u></u><u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">in my opinion a fixed low power station has a hard time
competing against a multi county mobile station and that may be keep
some fixed guys from entering the contest.<u></u><u></u></p></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">perhaps a plaque for highest single op mobile and highest
single op fixed?<u></u><u></u></p></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">starts getting expensive , but maybe multi ops (fixed and
mobile) should get something too? maybe get plaque sponsors as Minnesota
does?<u></u><u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">one other change i'd make is defining a mobile as "capable
of operation while mobile" <u></u><u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">fwiw<u></u><u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">scott ne9u<u></u><u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><br>Sent from my Cray-1<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM:12pt" class="MsoNormal"><br>On Mar 25, 2013, at 11:50
AM, Jim GM <<a href="mailto:jim.gmforum@gmail.com" target="_blank">jim.gmforum@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div>
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<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM:12pt" class="MsoNormal">Mobile has gotten and award
for only Mobile operation.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have been mulling this over for many years. Giving
Mobile stations and additional incentive.<u></u><u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">That is If the highest calculated say Mobile Single Op
score is higher than a Fixed Station highest score The Mobile station wins
both awards.<u></u><u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">The argument is that Fixed station is not Mobile. If a
fixed station operates from another fixed location other than the fixed
stations home location how should this be classified? Portable or Mobile?
Neither one really is no longer recognized by the ARRL except Maritime and
DX operations ever since the re-designations and definition by the FCC of
the use of "/".<u></u><u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Referance: <b><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Arial','sans-serif'"> FCC Part <span style="COLOR:#d51210">97</span>.119 Station identification
and <u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
<p style="MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt"><b><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Arial','sans-serif';FONT-SIZE:7.5pt"> <span style="COLOR:#d51210">97</span>.11 Stations aboard ships or
aircraft.</span></b><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Arial','sans-serif';FONT-SIZE:7.5pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So it is difficult to come up with terms to use other
than Fixed or Mobile.<u></u><u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Not sure if I cleared this up.<u></u><u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Jim
K9TF<u></u><u></u></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div>
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