[WIQPmail] Fwd: Mobile and fixed Station Competing

Jasper-NE9U skjasper at att.net
Sun Apr 7 12:09:25 CDT 2013


I agree too.  Under good condx mo iles will always win.  Under bad condx fixed should win.  Makes sense to separate them
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John Baumgarten <jbaumgarte at aol.com> wrote:

>I totally agree with Scott. The one time I won  this as a mobile, I almost felt guilty edging out a fixed station who had to stick with one county, and I could work the serious out state guys up to 18 times!  I also agree to keep it simple--just add another award for "fixed SO". 
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>John, N0IJ
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>On Apr 6, 2013, at 11:34 PM, Scott Neader KA9FOX <ka9fox at qth.com> wrote:
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>> Hi Jim. 
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>> Operating Mobile and operating Fixed are essentially two different contests.  In addition to the 500 per county bonus points, each time a mobile operator crosses a county line, those in the Mobile category can work the same stations all over again.  And they are often sought-after, at least when moving into rare counties.  Fixed stations get none of these benefits, but of course they likely have better operating conditions (towers, beams, high wire antennas, etc.)
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>> This is not rocket science.  These two operating categories have almost completely separate rules and should not be competing against each other, much like a baseball team would not compete against a basketball team.  It just doesn't make any sense.
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>> We do not need to make this complicated (mobiles submitting two scores???).  We just need to award BOTH categories SEPARATELY for their efforts.
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>> The incentive to promote mobile activity?  The fact that the Mobile category would have its own award, and they do not have to worry about being beat out by someone doing a Single Op at a superstation W0AIH.
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>> Let's make Single Op Fixed and Single Op Mobile two different award categories.
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>> Regarding operating from a county line... I think that is a totally separate discussion.  I'm not sure of the concerns on either side of the fence, but I would like to suggest that it not cloud the discussion about keeping Single Op Fixed & Single Op Mobile separated, for award purposes.  Start a new thread about "county line operating" and let's discuss.
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>> 73 - Scott KA9FOX
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>> On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 10:24 PM, Jim GM <jim.gmforum at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> If you give the mobile the option to submit 2 scores, one just to compete against another mobile and the other to compete against Fixed.
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>>> if the mobile score did not contain the 500 points per county would that be fair?
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>>> If the mobile score did not contain the multiplier per county but given credit for the county they operate from and not contain the 500 points per county would that be fair?
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>>> Where would the incentive be to promote more mobile activity?
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>>> Now being on the county line would be against county hunter rules and operating the contest with out this rule would discourage county hunters from operating this contest.
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>>> For every action is a reaction, seams to be a stalemate.
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>>> Jim K9TF
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