[WIQPmail] Fwd: Mobile and fixed Station Competing

[Gary K9GS]

That's exactly the point John.  Mobiles compete under a different set of 
rules so their efforts should be judged separately.


On 4/7/2013 12:05 PM, John Baumgarten wrote:
> I totally agree with Scott. The one time I won  this as a mobile, I 
> almost felt guilty edging out a fixed station who had to stick with 
> one county, and I could work the serious out state guys up to 18 
> times!  I also agree to keep it simple--just add another award for 
> "fixed SO".
>
> John, N0IJ
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 6, 2013, at 11:34 PM, Scott Neader KA9FOX <ka9fox at qth.com 
> <mailto:ka9fox at qth.com>> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jim.
>>
>> Operating Mobile and operating Fixed are essentially two different 
>> contests.  In addition to the 500 per county bonus points, each time 
>> a mobile operator crosses a county line, those in the Mobile category 
>> can work the same stations all over again.  And they are often 
>> sought-after, at least when moving into rare counties.  Fixed 
>> stations get none of these benefits, but of course they likely have 
>> better operating conditions (towers, beams, high wire antennas, etc.)
>>
>> This is not rocket science.  These two operating categories have 
>> almost completely separate rules and should not be competing against 
>> each other, much like a baseball team would not compete against a 
>> basketball team.  It just doesn't make any sense.
>>
>> We do not need to make this complicated (mobiles submitting two 
>> scores???).  We just need to award BOTH categories SEPARATELY for 
>> their efforts.
>>
>> The incentive to promote mobile activity?  The fact that the Mobile 
>> category would have its own award, and they do not have to worry 
>> about being beat out by someone doing a Single Op at a superstation 
>> W0AIH.
>>
>> Let's make Single Op Fixed and Single Op Mobile two different award 
>> categories.
>>
>> Regarding operating from a county line... I think that is a totally 
>> separate discussion.  I'm not sure of the concerns on either side of 
>> the fence, but I would like to suggest that it not cloud the 
>> discussion about keeping Single Op Fixed & Single Op Mobile 
>> separated, for award purposes.  Start a new thread about "county line 
>> operating" and let's discuss.
>>
>> 73 - Scott KA9FOX
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 10:24 PM, Jim GM <jim.gmforum at gmail.com 
>> <mailto:jim.gmforum at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     If you give the mobile the option to submit 2 scores, one just to
>>     compete against another mobile and the other to compete against
>>     Fixed.
>>
>>     if the mobile score did not contain the 500 points per county
>>     would that be fair?
>>
>>     If the mobile score did not contain the multiplier per county but
>>     given credit for the county they operate from and not contain the
>>     500 points per county would that be fair?
>>
>>     Where would the incentive be to promote more mobile activity?
>>
>>     Now being on the county line would be against county hunter rules
>>     and operating the contest with out this rule would discourage
>>     county hunters from operating this contest.
>>
>>     For every action is a reaction, seams to be a stalemate.
>>
>>     -- 
>>     Jim K9TF
>>
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73,

Gary K9GS

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