[WIQPmail] Fixed and Mobile should have separate awards

Tue Mar 26 10:48:50 CDT 2013

Hi Tom.  Indeed, time is on our side now, with the recent contest behind
us, and plenty of time to consider changes before any notices about the
2014 running need to be published, etc.

I understand that the cost of plaques in general are a lot more expensive
than most people realize.  Are you willing to share what the current plaque
is costing WARAC?  Do you have a picture you could post somewhere as to
what it looks like?  I have a few plaques from the "old days", but it may
be different now.

Funny you mentioned "edible awards"... a few old timers might remember
that, back in the early-mid 90s, to drum up support for WiQP, I offered to
send the top scoring out of state entry a "cheese award", one of those
cheddar cheese things made to be in the shape of Wisconsin, and promoted
this through the CQ Contest mailing list.  It was a lot of fun and
definitely did a few new faces to the contest.

California's QSO Party is known for its "wine" awards (top 20 CA and top 20
Non-CA entries), as is the MnQP for their "Wild Rice" awards (top 20 non-MN
entries).  I am sure other states do something similar.  I think it would
be a great idea for WiQP to consider something similar.

Sponsors are key.  Ham businesses, clubs, and individuals are all likely to
want to help.

Let the discussion begin. :-)

- Scott KA9FOX

On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 7:18 PM, Tom Macon <tmacon at wi.rr.com> wrote:

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>  Hello -
>
> The WIQP committee is aware of the need to look at the plaque offerings
> but, with Lynn's resignation and the need for others to pick up the reins,
> we decided not to complicate matters by making changes.  But, after the
> 2013 log jam clears, we want to look at a number of aspects of WIQP, and
> plaques is one of them.  Also, we don't want to approach the plaque issue
> willy-nilly, but rather to think it through and make one set of changes.
> So, Scott, thank you for raising the question here so that we can get more
> input.
>
> Clearly, the SO Fixed vs Mobile is the most mentioned area, but there are
> probably others.  How about the other categories?  Or for VHF activity?
> Tech? Rookie? How about edible awards?
>
> Back in January, there was an interesting discussion of plaques on the QSO
> Party Group - an encapsulated version is at:
> http://www.warac.org/wqp/2013/plaqueinfo.doc.  Check it out.
>
>  And, yes, sponsorship needs to be part of the program.
>
>  - Tom, K9BTQ
>    WIQP team
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* wh <cqdx at mediacombb.net>
> *To:* WIQP-mail at warac.org
> *Sent:* Monday, March 25, 2013 2:19 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [WIQPmail] Fixed and Mobile should have separate awards
>
>  I agree with Scott. Separate mobiles from fixed.****
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> Bill, N9CDX****
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> *From:* WIQP-mail [mailto:wiqp-mail-bounces at warac.org] *On Behalf Of *Scott
> Neader KA9FOX
> *Sent:* Monday, March 25, 2013 12:29 PM
> *To:* WIQP-mail at warac.org
> *Subject:* [WIQPmail] Fixed and Mobile should have separate awards****
>
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>
> Hello all!****
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> I have to say that I have never seen a state QSO party that pit Mobile
> stations and Fixed stations (with completely different rules) against each
> other for a single award (Single Op).  I know I am not the only fixed
> station that has shy'd away from operating WiQP due to this issue.  Fixed
> stations should not be competing against Mobile stations, when the QSO
> rules and point bonuses are different.****
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> I hope that this can be rectified.  If the problem is the cost of a second
> plaque, I have already talked with a number of ham businesses and clubs in
> Wisconsin that would entertain sponsoring a new plaque, so that both Top
> Fixed and Top Mobile can have separate plaques.****
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> What would it take to make this change?  How can I help?****
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> If you feel strongly for or against this type of change, I am guessing now
> is the time to chime in.****
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> - Scott KA9FOX****
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> On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 12:14 PM, NE9U - Jasper <skjasper at att.net> wrote:*
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> my 2 cents.....****
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> not sure if awards are different this year or not.  in past highest
> overall single op score (fixed or mobile) got the plaque.  i won it once in
> 2009 mobile.****
>
> in my opinion a fixed low power station has a hard time competing  against
> a multi county mobile station and that may be keep some fixed guys from
> entering the contest.****
>
> perhaps a plaque for highest single op mobile and highest single op fixed?
> ****
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> starts getting expensive , but maybe multi ops (fixed and mobile) should
> get something too?  maybe get plaque sponsors as Minnesota does?****
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> one other change i'd make is defining a mobile as "capable of operation
> while mobile"  ****
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> fwiw****
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> scott  ne9u****
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> Sent from my Cray-1****
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> On Mar 25, 2013, at 11:50 AM, Jim GM <jim.gmforum at gmail.com> wrote:****
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>  Mobile has gotten and award for only Mobile operation.****
>
> I have been mulling this over for many years. Giving Mobile stations and
> additional incentive.****
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> That is If the highest calculated say Mobile Single Op score is higher
> than a Fixed Station highest score The Mobile station wins both awards.***
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> The argument is that Fixed station is not Mobile. If a fixed station
> operates from another fixed location other than the fixed stations home
> location how should this be classified? Portable or Mobile? Neither one
> really is no longer recognized by the ARRL except Maritime and DX
> operations ever since the re-designations and definition by the FCC of the
> use of "/".****
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> Referance:  * FCC Part 97.119 Station identification and *
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> * 97.11 Stations aboard ships or aircraft.*****
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> So it is difficult to come up with terms to use other than Fixed or Mobile.
> ****
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> Not sure if I cleared this up.****
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> Jim K9TF****
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